Our Lady Of La Salette On The Noise Level Inside Any Catholic Church After Sunday Novus Ordo Mass.
****When Our Lady of La Salette spoke about the irreverence and impiety of the Priests & people during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass - She was referring to the Novus Ordo Mass.
The priests, ministers of my Son, the priests, by their wicked lives, by their irreverence and their impiety in the celebration of the holy mysteries, by their love of money, their love of honors and pleasures, and the priests have become cesspools of impurity. Yes, the priests are asking vengeance, and vengeance is hanging over their heads. Woe to the priests and to those dedicated to God who by their unfaithfulness and their wicked lives are crucifying my Son again! The sins of those dedicated to God cry out towards Heaven and call for vengeance, and now vengeance is at their door, for there is no one left to beg mercy and forgiveness for the people. There are no more generous souls; there is no one left worthy of offering a stainless sacrifice to the Eternal for the sake of the world. Our Lady of La Salette 19 Sept. 1846 (Published by Mélanie 1879)
“People will think of nothing but amusement. The wicked will give themselves over to all kinds of sin. Our Lady of La Salette 19 Sept. 1846 (Published by Mélanie 1879)
Main reason never to attend the New Mass - irreverence and impiety. Go find a SSPX Mass. Compare the two.
This is from 2012.
Nothing has changed.
Loud talking in church
Q: I was raised a Catholic in the 1950s and '60s. I left the Church in the 1980s but am now starting to attend once more. However, I am very distressed by the amount of noise in church, especially right after Mass. As soon as the priest processes out, our parish church sounds like a sports bar during the Super Bowl. I see children running between the pews, yelling to their friends, while their parents seem to pay no attention because they themselves are talking to their friends.
Back in the '50s and '60s, you could hear a pin drop in church, and if it became necessary to speak, you always did so in a whisper. We were taught that this was God's house, and that we were there to pay honor and reverence. The way I see it is this: God gives us 168 hours a week; can't we devote just one of those hours to God alone while we are in His house? We would still have 167 other hours to socialize.
The Mass is the re-creation of Christ's passion and crucifixion. I don't imagine that Mary and John walked away from Calvary discussing John's new haircut or how Mary's veil looked! (Martinsburg, Pa.)
A: Your concern is well-expressed and serves as a helpful reminder of the importance of reverence in what is clearly a sacred space. While there is no "rule" about talking in church, a few thoughts might help us to reason to an appropriate solution.
First, the General Instruction of the Roman Missal says, "Even before the celebration itself, it is a praiseworthy practice for silence to be observed in the church, in the sacristy, in the vesting room and in adjacent areas, so that all may dispose themselves to carry out the sacred celebration in a devout and fitting manner" (No. 45).
Although the instruction makes no specific reference to silence at the end of Mass, it would seem that a period of quiet at that time would allow gratitude to fill the soul for the special gift received.
The countervailing argument, of course, is that prayer is not just vertical but horizontal - i.e., it puts us in closer touch not only with the Lord but with the community of disciples who share our faith in Jesus.
It's a natural instinct, and a good thing, for parishioners to want to welcome one another and catch up on one another's lives - and it is often a sign of a parish's vitality that people genuinely enjoy socializing before and after the Sunday Eucharist.
So the question becomes how to combine that value of community with the reverence due to Christ present in the tabernacle and the respect owed to people who are still praying after Mass is over.
Certainly a nod of recognition and a smile is appropriate when filing out of pews, and even a few whispered words of greeting; but an extended conversation at a normal decibel level is better left until the gathering area (the "lobby," for Catholics of my vintage), and some parishes make that preference explicit by signs or bulletin announcements.
That way, both quiet reverence and happy conversation have their proper settings. (Newer parish churches are being built with larger gathering areas to accommodate those twin goals.)
Also, in order to foster the special attention the Eucharist merits, I know of some parishes which, shortly before Mass starts, make an announcement that the next few minutes will be spent in silent preparation for the sacred celebration.
PROPHECY OF MELANIE ON TWO POPES:
"I didn't see, I don't see any Great Pope or Great Monarch before an extremely great tribulation, horrifying, terrible and general for all Christendom. But before that time, twice there will be a short lived peace; TWO shaky, servile, doubtful popes" Mélanie
REMEMBER - THE 35+ YEARS WORTH OF CHASTISEMENTS DO NOT START UNTIL THE TWO POPES ARE DEAD......
“The great chastisement will come, because men will not be converted; yet it is only their conversion that can hinder these scourges. God will begin to strike men by inflicting lighter punishments in order to open their eyes; then He will stop, or may repeat His former warnings to give place for repentance. But sinners will not avail themselves of these opportunities; He will, in consequence, send more severe castigations, anxious to move sinners to repentance, but all in vain. Finally, the obduracy of sinners shall draw upon their heads the greatest and most terrible calamities. Mélanie
“We are all guilty! Penance is not done, and sin increases daily. Those who should come forward to do good are retained by fear. Evil is great. A moderate punishment serves only to irritate the spirits, because they view all things with human eyes. God could work a miracle to convert and change the aspect of the earth without chastisement. God will work a miracle; it will be a stroke of His mercy; but after the wicked shall have inebriated themselves with blood, the scourge shall arrive Mélanie
“What countries shall be preserved from such calamities? Where shall we go for refuge? I, in my turn, shall ask, What is the country that observes the commandments of God? What country is not influenced by human fear where the interest of the Church and the glory of God are at stake? (Ah, indeed! What country, what nation upon earth?) In behalf of my Superior and myself, I have often asked myself where we could go for refuge, had we the means for the journey and for our subsistence, on condition that no person were to know it? But I renounce these useless thoughts. We are very guilty! In consequence of this, it is necessary that a very great and terrible scourge should come to revive our faith, and to restore to us our very reason, which we have almost entirely lost. Mélanie
MARIA OF THE CROSS,
Victim of Jesus nee MELANIE CALVAT,
Shepherdess of La Salette
"I protest highly against a different text, which people may dare publish after my death. I protest once more against the very false statements of all those who dare say and write First that I embroidered the Secret; second, against those who state that the Queen Mother did not say to transmit the Secret to all her people." Mélanie