Are You Kidding Me? Using Pre-Vatican II Saints & Councils To Condemn Traditionalists Who Oppose The Canonization Of Two Damned Sinners!

Are You Kidding Me?

Please if you gonna ram Vatican II down our throats at the expense of all other church councils then please do not use pre-Vatican II councils to condemn those Roman Catholic who actually believe everything contained  in those pre-Vatican II councils. We traditionalists believe everything those councils taught, we are not the ones who invoked a modern day council with all its novel teachings that reject all the other church councils that have come before it. Our beef is not with traditions of the Church - our beef is with the nonsense that is Vatican II and the nonsense that is the stripped and barren new mass. So using pre-Vatican II councils and saints to condemn Traditionalists is absurd! The saints are on our side in this war, not yours!

Example is the blog Shameless Popery  who tries to defend  the post Vatican II canonization of J2 & J23 by using the words of two pre-Vatican II saints:

St. Alphonsus Ligori:
To suppose that the Church can err in canonizing, is a sin, or is heresy, according to St. Bonaventure, Bellarmine, and others; or at least next door to heresy, according to Suarez, Azorius, Gotti, etc.; Because the Sovereign Pontiff, according to St. Thomas, is guided by the infallible influence of the Holy Ghost in a special way when canonizing saints. 
Likewise, the Catholic Encyclopedia notes: 
In Quodlib. IX, a. 16, St. Thomas [Aquinas] says: “Since the honour we pay the saints is in a certain sense a profession of faith, i.e., a belief in the glory of the Saints [quâ sanctorum gloriam credimus] we must piously believe that in this matter also the judgment of the Church is not liable to error.” These words of St. Thomas, as is evident from the authorities just cited, all favouring a positive infallibility, have been interpreted by his school in favour of papal infallibility in the matter of canonization, and this interpretation is supported by several other passages in the same Quodlibet.
Not gonna cut it. Traditionalists are not the ones at war with pre-Vatican II saints or councils - it is men like the ones on the Shameless Popery blog who are at war with tradition.

So you can't use pre-Vatican II saints and councils to condemn trads who reject the post Vatican II canonization process as nothing but a novelty.  It is the post-Vatican II canonization process that rejects the traditional pre-Vatican II process.

If the pre-Vatican canonization process were still in effect today JP2 & J23 would never be declared saints. These two horrible popes were fast tracked because the wicked men in the Vatican know that days are numbered.

Will the canonizations be reversed? You bet! Who will reversed the false canonization of JP2 & J23?

The same Pope spoken of here by Our Lady of Fatima:


The third part of the secret revealed at the Cova da Iria-Fatima, on 13 July 1917.

I write in obedience to you, my God, who command me to do so through his Excellency the Bishop of Leiria and through your Most Holy Mother and mine.

After the two parts which I have already explained, at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!'. And we saw in an immense light that is God: ‘something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it' a Bishop dressed in White ‘we had the impression that it was the Holy Father'. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God.

The Bishop dressed in white is not a fan of Vatican II & he certainly is not praying to two saints who were canonized irregularly. No, this Fatima Pope will reverse the irregular canonization of JP2 & J23 and it will piss the lot of you off - so much so that many of you will want the Fatima Pope dead!

Most of you new mass heretics will follow a evil man who will take up your demented and evil cause - this man will be the forerunner to the actual Antichrist:

At La Salette,  Our Lady said:
“A forerunner of the Antichrist, with his troops gathered from several nations, will fight against the true Christ, the only Saviour of the world. He will shed much blood and will want to annihilate the worship of God to make himself be looked upon as a God. Our Lady of La Salette 19 Sept. 1846 (Published by Mélanie 1879)
Our Lady gives details on the man who will be called the forerunner to the Antichrist, he will be:

1. Nationalist - or Ethno-nationalist: Ethnic nationalism (also ethnicism and racial nationalism ) is a form of nationalism wherein the "nation" is defined in terms of ethnicity or race.
2. Hunter or typical stock pile-er of weapons.
3. reside in a monastery on top a steep mountain.
4. Catholic convert.
5. Hater of the Latin Mass.
6. Hater of Tradition.
7. Hater of the Blessed Trinity & His Saints.
8. Ape of all that is Holy.
9. Will have a cloven hoof so as to give others a warning of sorts - so no one will have excuse for falling for his charms.
10. Master of all impurities - esp. sodomy.
11. False appearance of virtue.
12, Lover of modern democracy.
13. Lover of Distributism.
14. Hater of the restoration of the Divinely Ordained Authority of the Holy Roman Emperor.
15. Hater of Advent - will have very great epileptic fits during Advent.
16. Will hide himself during Holy Week esp - Good Friday.
17. Hater of the Crucifix and esp. hatred toward the Crucified One!

So this man who will earn his nefarious title of the foreunner to the Antichrist by his orchestration of the events leading up to killing of the Fatima Pope and faithful.

I can add to the list of reasons why the Fatima Pope is murdered and it is the Fatima Pope's reversal of the JP2 & J23 canonizations!


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